Jesus as Yahweh God: Another Rebuttal to a Muslim's Denial

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Refuting Osama Abdallah on Jeremiah 23:5-6" article:

The following article is a refutation to Sam Shamoun's article that is located at: http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/jeremiah23.htm. Below, we will see once again that Jesus, the man created from dust, can not be GOD Almighty, and most certainly was not ever called GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun's article is a response to my article: Answering Jeremiah 23:5-6: A big blow to Sam Shamoun's trinity nonsense existing in the Old Testament.

You will also see corrections to some major and sensitive points to Sam Shamoun using Hebrew references that further debunk the polytheist trinity pagan lie that he believes in.

You immediately put a "red dot" on my screen name, which means that I could not ask further questions, because my text was all blocked. You also halted for a little while and came up with a bunch of nonsense to save face in front of your audience. I wonder why I was "red dotted" right after my very first sentence, which was my very first question also after my peace salutation to everyone in the chat room. What is it that scared you about me and my questions? You have yet to be a man of your words and accept my trinity and pornography in the Bible challenge debates on paltalk that we both agreed on.

Is Mr. Shamoun a coward and a liar, or a man in his words? I'll let him answer this one for us.

Also, below you will see how I exposed Sam Shamoun for why he LIED and only quoted Hebrews 1:8,10,11,12 and skipped Hebrews 1:9 (which refutes his trinity pagan lie), to twist the quotes and to deceive his reader and to falsely prove his trinity pagan lie.

Notice how Sam Shamoun, the liar, skipped Hebrews 1:9 above, and only gave Hebrews 1:8,10,11,12. The reason he did this is because Hebrews 1:9 refutes his polytheist trinitarian pagan lie. Here is how Hebrews 1:8-12 read from the King James Version Bible:

Hebrews 1
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Few points to mention:

1. The verses are talking about GOD Almighty's Creation and Him laying down the foundation of the earth, and the throne of Jesus on earth.
2. "therefore God, even thy God, hath annointed thee" is really saying "therefore leader, even your GOD Almighty, hath annointed thee". The reason I say this is because as I proved, even satan was given the same "God" title that Jesus was given:

"The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Corinthians 4:4)"

Satan was called "hotheos", which is the same exact word given to Jesus throughout the New Testament. Yet, the trinitarian pagan liars try to deceive the reader and give false conclusions that Jesus is the Creator of the universe, similar to what Sam Shamoun the liar tried to do by removing Hebrews 1:9 from his quotes above. Satanic indeed!

1. Sam Shamoun, the liar, tried to prove that Jesus is the one who created Heavens and earth and layed the earth's foundations through twisting the quotes above.

"Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by HIS SON, whom he appointed THE HEIR OF ALL THINGS, THROUGH WHOM ALSO HE CREATED THE WORLD. He is the radiance of the glory of God and THE EXACT IMPRINT (charakter) OF HIS NATURE, and HE UPHOLDS THE UNIVERSE BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs. For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you’? Or again, ‘I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son’? And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, ‘Let all God's angels worship him.’ Of the angels he says, ‘He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.’ But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.’ And, ‘You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.’ And to which of the angels has he ever said, ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet’? Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?" Hebrews 1:1-14 ESV

"When the Son is said to be ‘the radiant light of God’s glory (on apaugasma te doxes)’ (v.3 JB) and to bear ‘the imprint of God's nature (charakter tes hupostaseos autou)’ (v. 3), he is being described as the intrinsic possessor of the nature of God without actually being given the generic title of ‘God.’ (Harris, Jesus as God - The New Testament Use of Theos in Reference to Jesus [Grand Rapids; Baker Book House, 1992], p. 222; bold emphasis ours)

"To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: It is He who gives life and death; and He has power over all things." S. 57:2

"To God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth; And God hath power over all things." S. 3:189

"And certainly We! We it is Who give life, and cause death, and We are THE HEIRS." S. 15:23

"Lo! We, only We, inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned." S. 19:40

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever." Hebrews 13:8

"But of the Son he says, ‘Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, thy God, has anointed thee with the oil of gladness beyond thy comrades.’"

"Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways; we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's (tou theou) word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God (tou theou). And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god (ho theos) of this world (or age - aionos) has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God (tou theou). For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. For it is the God (ho theos) who said, ‘Let light shine out of darkness,’ who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God (tou theou) in the face of Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, to show that the transcendent power belongs to God (to theou) and not to us." 2 Corinthians 4:1-7

"which he accomplished in Christ when he raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age (aioni) but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church, which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all." Ephesians 1:20-23

"And he said, ‘Go, and say to this people: "Hear and hear, but do not understand; see and see, but do not perceive." Make the heart of this people fat, and their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.’" Isaiah 6:9-10

"And he said, ‘He who has ears to hear, let him hear.’ And when he was alone, those who were about him with the twelve asked him concerning the parables. And he said to them, ‘To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables; so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven’ … And he said to them, ‘Take heed what you hear; the measure you give will be the measure you get, and still more will be given you. For to him who has will more be given; and from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.’" Mark 4:9-12, 24-25

"Jesus said, ‘For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind.’ Some of the Pharisees near him heard this, and they said to him, ‘Are we also blind?’ Jesus said to them, ‘If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, "We see," your guilt remains.’" John 9:39-41

"Jesus said to them, ‘The light is with you for a little longer. Walk while you have the light, lest the darkness overtake you; he who walks in the darkness does not know where he goes. While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.’ When Jesus had said this, he departed and hid himself from them. Though he had done so many signs before them, yet they did not believe in him; it was that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: ‘Lord, who has believed our report, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?’ Therefore they could not believe. For Isaiah again said, ‘He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they should see with their eyes and perceive with their heart, and turn for me to heal them.’ Isaiah said this because he saw his glory and spoke of him." John 12:35-41

"When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in great numbers. And he expounded the matter to them from morning till evening, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the law of Moses and from the prophets. And some were convinced by what he said, while others disbelieved. So, as they disagreed among themselves, they departed, after Paul had made one statement: ‘The Holy Spirit was right in saying to your fathers through Isaiah the prophet: "Go to this people, and say, You shall indeed hear but never understand, and you shall indeed see but never perceive. For this people's heart has grown dull, and their ears are heavy of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest they should perceive with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and turn for me to heal them." Let it be known to you then that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles; they will listen.’" Acts 28:23-28

"I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the scripture says of Eli'jah, how he pleads with God against Israel? ‘Lord, they have killed thy prophets, they have demolished thy altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life.’ But what is God's reply to him? ‘I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Ba'al.’ So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. What then? Israel failed to obtain what it sought. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written, ‘God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that should not see and ears that should not hear, down to this very day.’ And David says, ‘Let their table become a snare and a trap, a pitfall and a retribution for them; let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs for ever.’" Romans 11:1-10

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse; for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct." Romans 1:18-28

"The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

"But my people did not listen to my voice; Israel would have none of me. So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts, to follow their own counsels." Psalm 81:11-12

"O LORD, why dost thou make us err from thy ways and harden our heart, so that we fear thee not? Return for the sake of thy servants, the tribes of thy heritage." Isaiah 63:17

"And I said to their children in the wilderness, Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers, nor observe their ordinances, nor defile yourselves with their idols. I the LORD am your God; walk in my statutes, and be careful to observe my ordinances, and hallow my sabbaths that they may be a sign between me and you, that you may know that I the LORD am your God. But the children rebelled against me; they did not walk in my statutes, and were not careful to observe my ordinances, by whose observance man shall live; they profaned my sabbaths. Then I thought I would pour out my wrath upon them and spend my anger against them in the wilderness. But I withheld my hand, and acted for the sake of my name, that it should not be profaned in the sight of the nations, in whose sight I had brought them out. Moreover I swore to them in the wilderness that I would scatter them among the nations and disperse them through the countries, because they had not executed my ordinances, but had rejected my statutes and profaned my sabbaths, and their eyes were set on their fathers' idols. Moreover I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the LORD." Ezekiel 20:18-26

Few points to mention:

1. Notice how Sam Shamoun's English translation is all twisted. The word "Lord" is mixed and scrambled between Jesus and his Creator, GOD Almighty, the ULTIMATE LORD! The trinitarian liars invented these cheap tricks to decieve [sic] the ordinary and simple-minded readers, who follow blindly and don't bother to reason, to prove the polytheist trinity pagan lie. Here is what Allah Almighty Said about them in the Noble Quran:

"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book (i.e., the Bible), but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' To traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.

(The Noble Quran, 2:77-78)"

"Can you (O men of faith) still earnestly desire that they (the Jews) will believe in you? And verily a party (fariq) among them hear the Word of God, then they pervert it knowingly after they have understood it. And when they meet the believers they say, ‘We believe,’ but when they meet each other in private they say, ‘Why do you tell them what God has revealed to you (in the Torah), that they may engage you in argument about it before their God? What do you not understand?’ Do they not know that God knows what they conceal and what they make public? Among them are unlettered folk who know the Scripture not except from hearsay. THEY BUT GUESS." S. 2:75-78

He it is Who hath sent among the unlettered ones (ummiyyeena) a messenger of their own, to recite unto them His revelations and to make them grow, and to teach them the Scripture and wisdom, though heretofore they were indeed in error manifest, S. 62:2 Pickthall

If they argue with you, then say, "I have simply submitted myself to GOD; I and those who follow me." You shall proclaim to those who received the scripture, as well as those who did not (ummiyyeena), "Would you submit?" If they submit, then they have been guided, but if they turn away, your sole mission is to deliver this message. GOD is Seer of all people. S. 3:20 Khalifa

And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy: Lest ye should say: "The Book was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by assiduous study:" Or lest ye should say: "If the Book had only been sent down to us, we should have followed its guidance better than they." Now then hath come unto you a clear (sign) from your Lord, - and a guide and a mercy: then who could do more wrong than one who rejecteth Allah's signs, and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away. S. 6:155-157

And thou (O Muhammad) wast not a reader of any scripture before it, nor didst thou write it with thy right hand, for then might those have doubted, who follow falsehood. But it is clear revelations in the hearts of those who have been given knowledge, and none deny Our revelations save wrong-doers. S. 28:48-49 Pickthall

"Bell thinks 'ummiyyun means belonging to the 'ummah or community, while Blachere translates it as ‘Gentiles,’ in the sense of ‘pagan.’ For the French scholar it is clear that the word 'ummi designates pagan Arabs, who, unlike the Jews and Christians, had not received any revelation and were thus living in ignorance of the divine law. Tabari does indeed quote some traditions that give this sense to the word ummi: according to Ibn 'Abbas, ‘'ummiyyun (refers to) some people who did not believe in a prophet sent by God, nor in a scripture revealed by God; and they wrote a scripture with their own hands. Then they said to the ignorant, common people: "This is from God."’ However, Tabari himself does not accept this interpretation, instead gives a totally unconvincing and improbable account of the derivation of the word: ‘I am of the opinion that an illiterate person is called ummi, relating him in his lack of ability to write to his mother (umm), because writing was something which men, and not women, did, so that a man who could not write and form letters was linked to his mother, and not to his father, in his ignorance of writing.’" (Warraq, "Introduction," What the Koran Really Says, Language, Text & Commentary [Prometheus Books, 2002; ISBN: 157392945X], p. 44; underline emphasis ours)

"And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in God, and that which has been revealed to you, in that which has been revealed to them, bowing in humility to God. They will not sell the signs of God for miserable gain. For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account." S. 3:199

Those unto whom We have given the Scripture, WHO READ IT WITH THE RIGHT READING, those believe in it. And whoso disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the losers. S. 2:121 Pickthall

THEY ARE NOT ALL ALIKE. Of the People of the Scripture there is a staunch community who recite the revelations of Allah in the night season, falling prostrate (before Him). They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency, and vie one with another in good works. These are of the righteous. S. 3:113-114 Pickthall

Like as We sent down on the dividers Those who made the Quran INTO SHREDS." S. 15:90-91

"Finally, if we understand correctly the following verse of Suratul-Hijr (xv. 90-91): ‘As we sent down upon (punished) the dividers (of the Scripture?) who broke up the Koran into parts,’ we are tempted to state that even when the Prophet was alive, some changes were noticed in the recital of certain verses of his sacred book. There is nothing very surprising in this fact, since Muhammad could not read or write, and was at the mercy of friends for the writing of his revelations, or, more frequently, of some mercenary amanuenses." (Mingana, "Three Ancient Korans", The Origins of the Koran - Classic Essays on Islam’s Holy Book, ed. by Ibn Warraq [Prometheus Books, Amherst NY, 1998], p. 84; bold emphasis ours)

"The book, drawn up by this method, continued to be authoritative and the standard text till 29-30 A.H. under the caliphate of 'Uthman. At this time the wonderful faithfulness of Arab memory was defective, and according to a general weakness of human nature, the Believers have been heard reciting the verses of the Koran in a different way. This fact was due specially, it is said, to the hundreds of dialects used in Arabia. Zaid was again asked to put an end to these variations which had begun to scandalize the votaries of the Prophet. That indefatigable compiler, assisted by three men from the tribe of Quraish, started to do what he had already done more than fifteen years before. The previous copies made from the first one written under Abu Bakr were all destroyed by special order of the caliph: the revelation sent down from heaven was one, and the book containing this revelation must be one. The critic remarks that the only guarantee of the authenticity of the Koran is the testimony of Zaid; and for this reason, a scholar who doubts whether a given word has been really used by Muhammad, or whether it has been only employed by Zaid on his own authority, or on the meagre testimony of some Arab reciters, does not transgress the strict laws of high criticism. If the memory of the followers of the Prophet has been found defective from the year 15 to 30 A.H. when Islam was proclaimed over all Arabia, why may it not have been defective from 612 to 632 C.E. when the Prophet was often obliged to defend his own life against terrible aggressors? And if the first recension of Zaid contained always the actual words of Muhammad, why was this compiler not content with re-establishing it in its entirety, and why was the want of a new recension felt by 'Uthman? How can it be that in the short space of fifteen years such wonderful variants could have crept into the few copies preceding the reign of the third caliph that he found himself bound to destroy all those he could find? If 'Uthman was certainly inspired only by religious purposes, why did his enemies call him ‘THE TEARER OF THE BOOKS’ and why did they fasten on him the following stigma: ‘He found the Korans many and left one; HE TORE UP THE BOOK’? ..." (Ibn Warraq, p. 85; bold and capital emphasis ours)

"... ‘Ali b. Abi Talib, and ‘Uthman b. Affan wrote the Revelation to the Prophet; but in their absence it was Ubai b. Ka’b and Zaid b. Thabit who wrote it.’ He informs us, too, that the people said to ‘Uthman: ‘The Koran was in many books, and thou discreditedst them all but one’; and after the Prophet's death, ‘People gave him as successor Abu Bakr, who in turn was succeeded by ‘Umar; and both of them acted according to the Book and the Sunnah of the Apostle of God- and praise be to God the Lord of the worlds; then people elected ‘Uthman b. ‘Affan WHO ... TORE UP THE BOOK.’" (Ibn Warraq, p. 102; bold and capital emphasis ours)

1. Here are the Romans 10:9-13 and Joel 2:32 verses that Sam Shamoun gave from the King James Version Bible:

Romans 10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Joel 2

32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

To the Reader: Where in these verses do you see Jesus being called GOD Almighty or Yahweh?!

"because, if you CONFESS with your lips THAT JESUS IS LORD and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For man believes with his heart and so is justified, and he confesses with his lips and so is saved. The scripture says, ‘No one who believes in him will be put to shame.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all and bestows his riches upon ALL WHO CALL UPON HIM. For, ‘every one who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.’" Romans 10:9-13

"Why? Because they did not pursue it through faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall; and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.’" Roman 9:32-33

"If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord; so then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, ‘As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God.’ So each of us shall give account of himself to God.’" Romans 14:8-11

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body." 2 Corinthians 5:10

"Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:9-11

"To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who IN EVERY PLACE CALL ON THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, both their Lord and ours:"

"For, ‘every one who CALLS UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD will be saved.’"

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do: sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh… But you are not in the flesh, you are IN the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God DWELLS IN YOU. Any one who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is IN YOU, although your bodies are dead because of sin, your spirits are alive because of righteousness. Romans 8:3, 9-10

"to them belong the patriarchs, and from them, according to the flesh, comes the Messiah, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen." Romans 9:5 NRSV

1. Paul, who wrote the book of Romans, never even met Jesus in person, nor was he ever from among Jesus' 12 disciples. Paul claimed that Jesus came to him while he was on his way to Damascus and annointed [sic] him to be an apostle. However, many, even Christian theologians, reject Paul and his false books.

"But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. Now as he journeyed he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed about him. And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?’ And he said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And he said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting; but rise and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do.’ … So Anani'as departed and entered the house. And laying his hands on him he said, ‘Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road by which you came, has sent me that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.’ And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. Then he rose and was baptized, and took food and was strengthened. For several days he was with the disciples at Damascus." Acts 9:1-6, 17-19

"In Christ Jesus, then, I have reason to be proud of my work for God. For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has wrought through me to win obedience from the Gentiles, by word and deed, by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Holy Spirit, so that from Jerusalem and as far round as Illyr'icum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ," Romans 15:17-19

"Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are not you my workmanship in the Lord? If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord." 1 Corinthians 9:1-2

"The signs of a true apostle were performed among you in all patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works." 2 Corinthians 12:12

"And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures." 2 Peter 3:15-16

Jesus in Matthew 21:12-17 was only quoting the Old Testament when he said "‘It is written, "My house shall be called a house of prayer"; but you make it a den of robbers.’" He wasn't saying that it was his house, or he is GOD Almighty Himself.

Also, Psalm 8:1-2 is not a [sic] directly connected to the praise that Jesus received in the temple, because:

1. There were no infants or babes in there.
2. Jesus again ONLY QUOTED the Old Testament and Jesus was directing the praise to GOD Almighty.
3. No one in that incident called Jesus GOD Almighty. This is only in the twisted mind of the polytheist trinitarian pagans.

"But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, AND THE CHILDREN CRYING OUT IN THE TEMPLE, "Hosanna TO THE Son of David!’ they were indignant; and they said to him, ‘Do you hear what these are saying?’ And Jesus said to them, ‘Yes; have you never read, "Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast brought perfect praise"?’ Matthew 21:15-16

First of all, 1 Peter 2:3-4 above says ".....but in God's sight chosen and precious;". This verse is clearly separating Jesus from his Creator, GOD Almighty.

Also, Psalm 34:8 above is praising those who seek refuge in GOD Almighty. Interestingly, Muslims before the recitation of the Noble Quran are commanded to always seek refuge in GOD Almighty from satan.

Thus far, the polytheist trinitarian pagan poor Sam Shamoun has proven absolutely nothing!! On the contrary, he lied and twisted Hebrews 1:9 as clearly shown above to prove his pagan lie.

I feel sorry for him and for the likes of him. He constantly says "if LORD Jesus is willing". He is guilty in profaning GOD Almighty's Holy Name and putting a creation's name above the LORD GOD Almighty. Sam Shamoun and the likes of him from the polytheist pagans are guilty of blasphemy, and I pray that he and every pagan who reads this paper to repent and seek forgiveness from GOD Almighty and to embrace Islam, the only Truth today to Praise and Glorify GOD Almighty, because we associate no partners created from dust and wood with Him!

"But even if you do suffer for righteousness' sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, but in your hearts reverence Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence; and keep your conscience clear, so that, when you are abused, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. 1 Peter 3:14-16

Thus far, the polytheist pagan idol worshiper Osama Abdallah has absolutely failed to refute anything!! On the contrary, he has deliberately lied and twisted what the Holy Bible and the doctrine of the Trinity teach, and got exposed for trying to use Hebrews 1:9 to disprove the glorious truth of God’s Triunity. It seems that Osama would rather believe his pagan lie than in the true, Triune God of the Holy Bible.

And we do hope that Osama will repent of his false religion, and refrain from insulting and blaspheming the true God by his worship of the false god of the Quran. We hope that he will read this paper and be convicted of his pagan worship and seek the forgiveness of the true God, Yahweh, by embracing Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. Hopefully he, and other Muslims, will refrain from being mutilators of the true God by their denial of his glorious Triunity, and no longer insult him by claiming that Muhammad was his prophet.

My response:

Before I let you continue, let me first point out few major problems with this verse since trinitarians are naturally inclined toward polytheism, paganism and idol worship:

1. The verse says "Righteous Branch". Is GOD Almighty a branch or one that comes from anyone's blood line?

2- Jesus was called a "Branch" in other places in the Old Testament. But this time, let's see how much of a GOD Jesus really is:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

If Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

My response:

This is all fine, except that it doesn't make Jesus the Creator of the Universe. Again, this branch that was mentioned in Isaiah was said to also have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

Again, if Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

The fact that this

"Branch" or final Messiah or king or person will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him clearly and irrefutably means that he is only a creation from GOD Almighty and not GOD Almighty Himself, no matter how high your polytheist pagan theology tries to elate him.

My response:

This point had been refuted above, because there is nothing unique about the Messiah's title. Like I said above, let me point out few major problems with this verse since trinitarians are naturally inclined toward polytheism, paganism and idol worship:

1. The verse says "Righteous Branch". Is GOD Almighty a branch or one that comes from anyone's blood line?

2- Jesus was called a "Branch" in other places in the Old Testament. But this time, let's see how much of a GOD Jesus really is:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

If Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

My response:

Specific characteristics? Him fearing GOD Almighty and delight in fearing GOD Almighty means he is the Creator to you? Hilarious indeed. Also, the names that I listed above clearly debunk your points! Yes people were called GODLY names and titles before and after Jesus in the Bible.

Anyway, let me paste the refutation to your "branch" nonsense once again:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

Again, if Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

The fact that this

"Branch" or final Messiah or king or person will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him clearly and irrefutably means that he is only a creation from GOD Almighty and not GOD Almighty Himself, no matter how high your polytheist pagan theology tries to elate him.

My response:

That is only the wishful thinking from the polytheist trinity paganism lie that you believe in. As I've shown above, the "Righteous" "Branch" that was mentioned in Jeremiah and Isaiah was also said to have the spirit of

"fearing" GOD Almighty in him and he will "delight in the fear of the LORD". This is a clear proof that the branch will only be a human Prophet and a creation of GOD Almighty, and not GOD Almighty Himself.

You have yet to answer why did GOD Almighty say that He will put the Spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in the "branch"?

My response:

My challenged has not been refuted. You have not even given a legitimate response! You miserably failed to trace Mary to the blood line of Solomon. You miserably failed to even prove that mothers' blood line can be used for family tracing. You miserably failed to respond to the GODLY names and titles that were given to many others before and after Jesus in the Bible. And last but not least, your "branch" point had been soundly debunked by showing and proving that this branch will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him and will

"delight in the fear of the LORD".

I wonder how can GOD Almighty fear Himself? And how can GOD Almighty EVER have any type of fear in Him??!!

We'll let the polytheist trinitarian pagans respond to this point by giving more humiliating and embaracing [sic] answers to their pagan lie.

My response:

Again, it is both ridiculous and sad that you fail to see the metaphoric speech in all of the verses above, especially after Jerusalem was called "Yahweh is Righteousness" in Jeremiah 33:15-16! As I showed above, the Messiah or Branch was also said to have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him, and he will delight in the fear of the LORD:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

If Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

How can GOD Almighty have any type of "fear" in Him??!!

My response:

Again, it is both ridiculous and sad that you fail to see the metaphoric speech in all of the verses above, especially after Jerusalem was called "Yahweh is Righteousness" in Jeremiah 33:15-16! As I showed above, the Messiah or Branch was also said to have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him, and he will delight in the fear of the LORD:

1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

Also, please visit:

The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.

If Jesus is truly GOD Almighty, then how can the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty be put in him? What is the Wisdom from GOD Almighty to put the spirit of fearing Himself inside Himself?

How can GOD Almighty have any type of "fear" in Him??!!

The one passage I haven’t addressed is Isaiah 11, so I will now address it. Osama erroneously assumes that since the person referred to in Isaiah (which is Jesus of course) is inspired by the Spirit of the Lord to fear God, the person in question cannot also be God at the same time.

Osama’s argument is directly a result of his a priori assumption of Unitarianism, i.e. that God is one in Being and one in Person. Osama thinks that since God is only one Person then the shoot of Jesse (i.e. Jesus) cannot be that God. If he were that God then this basically would imply that he essentially feared himself.

Osama’s logic goes something like this:

1. God is only one Person.
2. The shoot of Jesse is both distinct from and fears God.
3. Therefore, the shoot cannot be God.

The problem with this syllogism is that premise 1 is false since God is not only one Person according to the Holy Bible. The shoot of Jesse can be both distinct from God and be God at the same time, precisely what Isaiah stated in an earlier chapter! Isaiah, under inspiration, wrote:

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulders, and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God (El Gibbor), The Father of Eternity (abi ad), The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this." Isaiah 9:6-7

According to Isaiah, the shoot of Jesse who will reign on his son David’s throne is the Mighty God himself and the Source of eternal life. Isaiah takes the same titles of the child and applies them elsewhere to the true God Yahweh:

"A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God." Isaiah 10:21

"O LORD, You are my God. I will exalt You, I will praise Your name, For You have done WONDERFUL things; Your COUNSELS of old are faithfulness and truth." Isaiah 25:1 NKJV

"LORD, you establish peace for us; all that we have accomplished you have done for us." Isaiah 26:12

"This also comes from the LORD of hosts, Who is wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance." Isaiah 28:29

"For this is what the high and exalted one says, the one who rules forever, whose name is holy: ‘I dwell in an exalted and holy place, but also with the discouraged and humiliated, in order to cheer up the humiliated and to encourage the discouraged.’" Isaiah 57:15

There are individuals who, sharing Osama's skepticism towards Christianity, seek to deny that Isaiah 9:6 predicts the coming of the Messiah. Others go so far as to deny that these are the titles of the child. Jewish Messianic Scholar and Apologist Dr. Michael L. Brown responds:

"The oldest Jewish translation of Isaiah 9:6[5], found in the Septuagint, understands all the names as referring to the king, rendering this verse into the Greek as follows: ‘For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel [Megale he arche]: for I will bring peace on the princes, and health to him.’ The Targum, while explicitly identifying this as a Messianic prophecy, renders the verse in Aramaic with an interesting twist, ‘... and his name is called from before the One who is wonderful in counsel, the mighty God who exists forever, the Messiah, because there will be abundant peace upon us in his days’ (translated literally). The problem with this translation, aside from the fact that it is grammatically strained, is that almost all the names are heaped on God, and only the last two are given to the son - although it is the naming of this royal child that is central to the verse. How odd! Clearly, the names refer to the son, not to the Lord who gave them. In other words, the Targumic rendering would be like saying, ‘And God - the great, glorious, holy, wonderful, eternal, unchangeable Redeemer and King and Lord - calls his name Joe.’ There is no precedent or parallel to this anywhere in the Bible and no logical explanation for this rendering, nor is it even a natural, grammatical rendering of the Hebrew. The characteristics of the royal child are central - highlighted here by his names - not the characteristics of the Lord. As the brilliant Hebrew and Rabbinic scholar Franz Delitzsch noted, even Samuel David Luzzato, one of the greatest Italian rabbis, rightly observed that ‘you do not expect to find attributes of God here, but such as would be characteristic of the child.’ This agrees with the Talmudic and midrashic writings, along with the comments of Abraham Ibn Ezra, all of which state that the names refer to the child." (Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume Three, Messianic Prophecy Objections [Baker Books, Grand Rapid MI, 2003], pp. 32-33; bold emphasis ours)

In fn. 86, Brown writes:

... Cf. the following Rabbinic statements: ‘R. Yose the Galilean said: "The name of the Messiah is Peace, for it is said, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace"’ (Midrash Pereq Shalom, p. 101); ‘The Messiah is called by eight names; Yinnon [see Ps. 72:12], Tzemach [e.g., Jer. 23:5]; Pele’ [Wonderful, Isa. 9:6(5)], Yo’etz [Counselor, Isa. 9:6(5)], Mashiach [Messiah], El [God, Isa. 9:6(5)], Gibbor [Hero, Isa. 9:6(5)], and Avi ‘Ad Shalom [Eternal Father of Peace, Isa. 9:6(5)];’ see Deuteronomy Rabbah 1:20." (Ibid. p. 210)

The great medieval commentator Abraham Ibn Ezra, despite applying the passage to Hezekiah, admits:

"The correct view in my opinion is that all these are names of the child. pele’ – because the Lord did wonders in his days. yo’ets – such was Hezekiah [as it is written], "And the king took counsel" [see 2 Chron. 30:2]; ’el gibbor – because he was strong, and the kingdom of the house of David was prolonged because of him; [abi] ‘ad – the word has the same meaning as "dwelling in eternity" [in Isa. 57:15]; sar shalom – because there was peace in his days." (Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume 2, Theological Objections, 2000, p. 46)

Section nine of the Huppat Eliyahu and section 7 of Rabbeinu HaKadosh in Otsar Midrashim apply all these names to the Messiah.

We see that, unlike Osama, Isaiah had no problem in asserting that the shoot of Jesse was both distinct from God and was God at the same time.

For more on Isaiah 9:6, please read the following articles:

http://answering-islam.org/BibleCom/is9-6.html
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Al-Kadhi/r01.2.3.11.html
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/letters/el-gibbor.html

"I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am THE ROOT and THE OFFSPRING of David, the bright morning star." Revelation 22:16

I am not changing positions. My points were taken from www.jewsforjudaism.org, and I only proved that Isaiah 9:6 does not in anyway refer to GOD Almighty since the Jews themselves have strong evidence that Isaiah 9:6 points to one of their kings. I was in other words exposing the doubts in the Bible and disproving the polytheist trinity paganism lie.